You just opened a big can of worms.

I can't stand him. I can't stand his looks, his actions, his voice, his personality, nor his fans.

Let's start with him.
-He's cruel (spits on fans, late to shows for no reason, etc.)
-He smokes weed (something I'm strongly against)
-His voice isn't great and is normally auto-toned
-Swag...wth?

His fans:
-simple minded
-don't appreciate others taste in music
-CUT FOR BIEBER? The hell?
-being rude to other fans.

His music:
-not good beats
-sings about stuff he hasn't experienced
-weed, drinking, etc.
-who he sings with (Nikki Minaj, etc.)

And let me say this, he only got famous BECAUSE of the people he sang with. Ludacris and Sean Kingston never should have agreed to that.

(Side note: my account Bieberlol really laughs at Bieber. I know it's mean but I really don't care. I can't stand him.)

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Umm...I don't want to ruin your day, guys, but I LOVE Justin Bieber. No offense.
I love him because he sings awesomely, in my opinion, he's really HOT, and he does not smoke weed, BTW. He is an amazing singer and his music really means a lot. It has a message. In each of his songs, there's an important message there that he's trying to get across. I love JB because he started off young and he wasn't really famous, he started off normal, just posting videos on YouTube, and he then became famous because he could really sing and play instruments. He's got real talent, if you ask me. I, personally, have huge respect for that guy, and I love him, and I really think he's great. I DON'T think the fame got to his head. He's not that different than the person he was five years ago. He's grown up. He's matured. I am not rude to other fans, to any type of music, whether I like it or not, and, in my opinion, not every fan is like that. Some fans may be, yes, that's very possible, but not EVERY fan acts that way. I, personally, do not think his fans are stupid, since I am a huge fan of him myself, and, well, if they'd like to get tattoos of him, that's their business, and they're allowed. I would never do that, since I HATE tattoos, but if they want, that's fine. I really like this kid. Justin Bieber is inspirational, and I like him. Sorry if I ruined your day.

@Amaryllis-Love Every song portrays a good message. Boyfriend itself does, too. It's telling people that JB would treat her like a queen, and that's all he needs, is her, to be her boyfriend.

Honestly, I don't care about what Justin Bieber does. I don't like him nor hate him since I'm too busy not caring about him.

As for his fans, you guys have to understand that most of his fans are girls that jump onto bandwagons that obsess over the next big thing. Almost everyone I knew in middle school that obsessed over Bieber now obsess over One Direction.

subway1 wrote:

@Amaryllis-Love Every song portrays a good message. Boyfriend itself does, too. It's telling people that JB would treat her like a queen, and that's all he needs, is her, to be her boyfriend.

Not to be mean, nor anything. I absolutely respect your tastes (I like bands that had to write their names with their butts and others that were almost thrown in jail because of marijuana) but lets be honest about something....

Who ACTUALLY writes most lyrics of Justin Bieber? Not him.

Who ACTUALLY composes his melodies? Not him anymore.

How did he reach such popularity? Not by himself, I assure you.

What messages does he "send" besides:
- I'll treat you like a princess;
- I've never done this but let's pretend I did;
- I'll buy you whatever you want as long as you're mine;
- Lets have parties all night long;
- I wish for (the mainstream) peace;
- etc

MESSAGES don't need to only like this to be MESSAGES. These kinds of messages are messages that EVERYONE already knows because EVERY SINGER sings about it.

Lemme tell you a story about this guy I actually like. 2 actually.

- There was this kid who really loved to sing. Though his mother supported him, his father did not at all.
- He started to skip classes just to enroll a music school secretly.
- As soon as he could, he started to work to pay for the instruments he wanted to buy.
- He later joined a company and kept on practicing even more to be where he is now.
- To this day, he hasn't yet talked about his father since he still does not support his son's dream.
- The guy is still singing for over 5 years, in front of publics and he's done wrongs and goods.
- He writes about 30% of his group's CD's lyrics by himself and helps in about 20%.
- His name is Kim JongHyun from SHINee
- This is how he sings live (sorry for the quality and subbing, most videos were taken down)
- This is a song he wrote - Obsession (he sings mostly the chorus on this)
- Another one - Y si fuera ella (And if it was her) ((hyeya)  - Not sure if playback or not but maybe 50/50

Next guy

- He was born with a heart condition
- He has asthma
- He was under surgery as a kid because of that
- He started to write lyrics in elementary school or around that
- He started to compose his own melodies
- He went to underground shows (like you see in gangstar movies)
- All of this in pre-teen age
- He had tomove to Canada, China and Japan to study but he failed grades or had tomove due to health issues
- He still dances, sings and speedraps
- Recently, the company he was in with his group stopped paying for over a year
- He kept on working on his own
- He shaved his head once with guilt over something that happened in Taiwan (I' ve never seen Bieber do anything like that when he failed)
- He still does charity although he hasnt been getting paid
- His artistic nickname was Nakseo/Nacseo which stands for "Scribble" as he would always be scribbling lyrics throughout his time
- He had to go to the hospital several times after concerts or practices because of his health
- He's been over one week without sleeping because he "wanted and needed to finish the new album" pretty much by himself
- He writes most lyrics and composes most part of the melodies
- He still works on his own AND with his band
- His name is Woo JiHo, nicknamed Zico
- Most recent MV from his group - he is the first to appear
- His OWN work, lyrics based on the movie "Battle Royal" and his own life
- More of his OWN work, careful because the language is pretty strong
- Before he debuted with his group, own work with HanHae (another guy like him) telling how his life was as he trained to debut
- Yes, more of his own work

Now listen, I'm not saying they are better or worse. I'm just saying that some artists should get more thinking before we go all like "OMG HE'S SO PERFECT OMG MARRY ME!"
Most of them are only there because of their voices or their visuals.
Most do not write what they sing. They have a gazzilion people writting for them, which, obviously, results in constant comebacks and new songs.
Most of them have all of those fans and end up on the radio all the time because the songs are produced in a way most people will like:
- Same beats;
- Easy lyrics;
- Everyday lyrics;
- Trend follow.

We are saying that Justin Bieber is not that good because of this.

My friend got me into him. But amm after a while...i kinda ended up backing away from that. I still like his songs though...they are highly catchy.
I dont have anything against him. He's jut another random kid who needs to get over himself.

I do however cringe at the fact of so much fangirling. I cant deal with it.

Ice ~
I'm curious..
*googlesJustinBieberaboutAnneFrank*

OH MY GOD! Are you kidding me. And I thought I couldn't hate someone as much as I hated Delores Umbridge.

Last edited by malu (2013-08-14 19:35:32)

I don't particularly like Justin Bieber that much. The fame does seem to be getting to him. Would anyone in their right mind write that in the Anne Frank House? Would anyone act the way he is and still be completely untouched by the fame? No one would. He's obviously a rude guy or crazy from the publicity.

subway1 wrote:

Ummm...Not to be mean or anything, and not to rain on your parade, but...I beg to differ. I think he was perhaps tired when he wrote that or perhaps he wasn't thinking straight. Or maybe he was trying to joke around, and bring some spirit and happiness into the Anne Frank House. I'm not sure, but he's definitely not rude or crazy.

When I'm tired I don't pee in buckets and yell at Bill Clinton. And if he's not thinking straight, he's drunk(he's only 19, mind you). Which eliminates you're picture-perfect version of him completely. Also, there was a picture taken of him smoking what? Weed. He nearly terrorizes his neighbors, he's mocked Lindsey Lohan about rehab, and he's taken an illegal monkey into Germany.
Tired? Not thinking straight? I think it's his publicity. He wants to do something he wouldn't be able to if he were not famous. He does it for attention, and he does it because of his fans.
He's pretty rude in my eyes and many others, and he shows some signs of being crazy. If he wanted to bring happiness to the AFH, he certainly did not.

Sadly I have to agree. I hate talking in a bad way about someone, but he's acting pretty spoiled and if he doesn't put an end to it soon, he'll be another victim of sudden popularity.
When I'm tired, I don't go around ruining other people's property, doing something illegal or insulting someone.

@subway: The peeing incident was in a Restaurant...and a good one at that. There HAS to have been a WC. Have you ever went to a big restaurant and found NO Restroom? No excuse EVER for what he did.
I could try to overcome the Anne Frank incident because maybe he didn't mean what he said, but that other incident, he can't have been framed. He POSTED the pic from his own account. And Never even apologized.
So even if we pretend that weed never happened (I don't know if it's true or not) and we ignore the Anne Frank incident, what he did at that restaurant was so rude and uncivilized. A hardworking person in that restaurant had to clean up his rude act.
Sorry , but I will never respect him unless he matures. I never liked him as a singer in the first place, but at least I used to respect him. Now...*sigh*...sadly he's just turning into another  over-popular singer.

Last edited by darkelfqueen (2013-08-15 00:47:05)

subway1 wrote:

Maybe he was PRETENDING to smoke to look cool.

Smoking weed makes you look 'cool'? In what culture? The hippies?!