Great post! 

I was in my daughter's room supervising her re-cleaning her room and was on the laptop when I first saw your post.  I read the first half then supper was ready so now I am relaxing and can fully read everything here.

I totally agree with your post and I share your frustration.  With wanting to haul out the Christmas decorations, it's been a bit of a hunt to find everything.  Some are food, some are in the Garden area, some are in lights, some are in decorations... scattered all over my attic!  =)  I found a lot of my Christmas decorations simply by clicking on My Things and NOT going to any category.  By doing this, it shows the items I've bought and the order they were bought in.  But even so, one of my Christmas trees was in the garden area.

I think I posted once in the post you are referring to but I believe I posted in the wrong manner and I gave up after that, feeling intimidated. 

The stretch of water that came with that flirt has the wooden edges which to me, seems like a window, albeit, a mighty BIG window. 

I've had some items that I absolutely KNOW I have, but I can't run it down in My Things and to pop into my attic is a half hour disaster in trying to even get away from that page.

Sometimes certain aspects of the game that might need to be looked into or fixed seems to be passed over or forgotten or ignored.  I know that the French server is the "main" server but I have to wonder if that is the case, they how come the US server has so many French speaking dolls?  I'm not saying they can't be here or us there.  I wish that some of our suggestions that a lot of people feel are good suggestions could get some sort of notice.  Or an issue such as this would be better handled.

PS:

Had my husband not been talking in his Everquest game I probably would have posted more ;)

Last edited by sierradane (2012-11-17 03:16:57)

Here is an item that I've sat for about 30 minutes searching for.  Of course, I first looked in the BUILDING tab since it's a scene of the outside of a HOUSE.  Not there.  It was in the WINDOWS tabs.  *slaps her forehead*  Why didn't I think of that! ;)

Well, it is the outside WALLS of a house... so I suppose it could have just as easily been classified as that.

A house is a BUILDING and that is, without a doubt, the first place I would have looked.  That being said, even WALLS would have made more sense than WINDOWS... there is not a window in sight and it is an entire structure, not a structural component.

Please note:  While the item I was looking for lead to a demonstration and discussion of Windows, Walls, Building, and Garden... this is a problem in many categories, not just structural categories.

I could post examples of ambiguity and crossover in Garden vs. Plant vs. Decor (with some Windows & Walls & Buildings thrown in, for variety).  I could post examples of "looks like a fill-in-the-blank to me" using Animals vs. Characters vs. Hobbies (plus a couple hand-held Accessories, just for fun).  I've even found a single style of furniture (bookcases) filed in three different categories:  Storage Units, Office, and Walls.

There are even more, but I have no more time right now... and it is time, wasted time that is ultimately the problem with this wildly inconsistent classification.  I simply don't have 30 minutes to spend looking for a single item, multiplied by how many other items do I need to find... and sometimes, after investing that time, still not finding the item in question!

To have to look through three or four possible categories, with each of those categories have 5, 10, 15 or more pages to look through before discovering... "NOPE, that item is NOT here!  Guess again!" is beyond frustrating  Plus (again), sometimes I don't find the item at all.

Last edited by n0regrets (2012-11-18 17:05:35)

Has anyone tried the Sort by Store and Sort by Room functions to see if you'd have better luck there?

Yes, I realize this means you have to know which store something came from, but if you know it was a quest reward, you can sort by Collector's Items, of if you know it's in your Attic, you can sort by that, or both at the same time.

This may be a very simple question but can we please have a post started as a sticky that allows OMD players to list an item and a suggestion as to what category it better fits into?

I understand that it will all be a mote point if the admin from Feerik does not ever look at it or take our suggestions and make corrections but...

Can our mods please pass along this idea to the admin? That we would lke to have items moved to categories that make more sense. 

I also understand that there may be more pressing issuses but a few changes once a week or even once a month might make some players very happy (and even eager to spend real life money).

I definitely don't want to detract from the discussion at hand... others have offered some very valid observations, comments, and suggestions, which I still hope might receive a response.

However, I wanted to further demonstrate the issue created by the new organization categories.  I'm sure I could post an example a day, but I will content myself with this one... which took SEVEN guesses!  I really hope that this thread will give some credence to the merit of player observations.

The new antique ivory furniture offered in the Princess quest seemed a match made in Heaven for some of the vintage Victorian pieces included in the Steampunk quest... the first piece that came to mind was the ivory bar (shown below).



Guess #1:
I headed off confidently for Storage Units, certain that this was going to be an easy one!  After all, a bar both stores and displays wine, liqueurs, and assorted glassware...  I was wrong.

Guess #2:
I was surprised, but knew immediately where the bar must now be:  Walls.  The Steampunk bar is a floor-to-ceiling wall unit (complete with pillars & posts), so it's not unreasonable to classify it as such.  Confident or no... walls is a no-go.

Guess #3:
I'm a bit stymied... if I was a bar, where would I be?  I decide the next most logical place to look is Kitchen, amongst other food & beverage related storage cabinets.  I found everything, including the kitchen sink (LOL)... but no bar!

Guess #4:
Now, I'm not a bit stymied... I'm a lot stymied!  It seems like a longshot, but I look in Office next.  I suppose a floor-to-ceiling piece of furniture used to store objects could share similar traits with bookcases... and bars are very often located in studies or libraries (but not OMD's).

& Guess #5 & 6:
Off to visit the "usual suspects", the categories that seem to end up with inexplicable odds & ends... sierradane's house was a "Window" and my window was a "Building".  There are assorted structural components found in both categories, so it's worth a try... and a miss!

Guess #7:
At this point, I am ready to give up and add my bar to the list of Missing-in-Action items... but I hate to walk away empty-handed, knowing that I am only delaying the inevitable search for another day *sigh*  I take one last look at the available categories, looking for anything that might seem possible... no matter how unlikely.  Unlikely or not, the Victorian Steampunk bar is a Table... not a leg in sight, and barely enough surface space to hold a wineglass (much less serve a meal on), but there you have it!

Again, I am not alone in my frustration with finding things since the new organization system was implemented.  Independent of this thread, the "Players Helping Players" forum has received numerous comments & requests related to the difficulty in locating items in the Stores... where collector's items cannot be blamed for adding to the confusion (I've quoted two below).  The "Ideas & Suggestions" forum also has it's share of ideas & suggestions (LOL) for improvement ^.^

jenzg11 wrote:
Ok, I think I have looked (for hours last nite) for the nightgowns that have the matching sheer robe. I know there was a green one, and I think a pink one.. But I can't find either.  I looked in the Lingerie tabs and in the dress tabs. Have they taken them off when they switched?

anyamalfoy wrote:
I'm looking for the bookcase that has a hole in it. You know the one. The one that's at an angle and is a bit like a wall.

If you've got an idea of what I'm talking about you're a superstar. If you know where it is you're a genius.

Last edited by n0regrets (2012-11-26 21:07:04)

The item below is a WINDOW??????  (that's where it shows up as)